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nds76

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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2012 9:27:49 AM

Could you please clarify which should be posted? I always thought it was the cash price but I see many posting credit price.
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Don
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 11:28:52 AM

Here's a link to the related FAQ
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sheetzu
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 5:04:42 PM

I post the price that is on the price sign. If they have a cash price that is lower than the price on the sign, then I don't think that is something that the GB should have to be concerned with. If they have a sign that shows both prices, then I suppose that you would post the cash price and note that in the comments section.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 12:15:29 PM

GLM4205:
You posted several times, saying "cc", with no further explanation or reasoning.

Inasmuch as the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) section reads "...we ask that you post the cash price where it exists. If the station does not offer a cash price, the standard price should be reported.", perhaps you can explain where you got your guidance.

For the moderators:

As the answer contained in the FAQ section appeared definitive, it seems that this topic could be closed as the original question has been answered in the FAQs and repeatedly in the discussions. Any discussion about which price wuld be more appropriate is an issue for a different topic and discussion. The original question, however, seems to have been adequately answered.

Just my opinion.

Or, if the moderators defer to GLM4205's guidance that "cc" prices should be posted, perhaps the moderators can say so, and then close this topic as being complete (and then, of course, update the guidance in' the FAQ section).

Again, just my opinion.
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GLM4205
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 6:31:18 AM

cc
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:43:38 PM

In my town we don't have any stations (yet) that charge a different price for cash. We had one but when no one else jumped on the bandwagon they stopped. It probably should be based on site. In Statesville (about 30 miles away) as far as I have seen there are only two stations that charge a different price for cash/credit and they are down the street from each other. Several of us believe that a GB owns at least one of them (maybe both) because that is the person who is always posting the cash prices.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:39:19 PM

" I think that the credit price should be posted as that is what the vast majority of people are watching."

Not that simple. For those areas that have dual pricing, it is the CASH price that is almost if not always posted on the sign. I believe that is why the change. Do you drive in to check the price at the pump for every price you post? I thought not.

So, besides a field for both cash and credit, there needs to be a durable flag that indicates the station is a dual priced station and buyer beware if only the cash price is posted.

Additionally, since the comments are not durable, and since many folks are too lazy to post that it is a cash price or dual priced station, that information is not kept at this time w/out having a durable flag of some sort.

Most folks post the price on the street sign as they drive by.

[Edited by: TXJEANS at 8/24/2012 9:42:03 PM EST]
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:33:34 PM

> If you post a cash price let it be known in the comments. Who even carries cash? <

I know a VP at Wilco/Hess and he told me that less than 4% of their fuel sales are cash. I think that the credit price should be posted as that is what the vast majority of people are watching. If a cash discount is available then that should be put in the notes section.

[Edited by: maddog57 at 8/24/2012 9:34:17 PM EST]
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:31:25 PM

There are very few stations around here that charge a different price but those that do charge as much as 15 cents a gallon. There is one station in Statesville where several us believe a GB owns the station where this occurs. I stopped there based on the price posted only to discover the price was 15 cents higher than what was posted because of the cash/credit bit. I posted the credit price and less than a minute later they posted the cash price. I went down the street for lower priced fuel and did some shopping and then posted the credit price again and less than a minute later the same user overwrite my credit price with the cash price.
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MidNJ
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Message Posted: Aug 23, 2012 10:04:35 PM

Being from NJ, one of the first states that separated credit from cash prices, yes, there is confusion regarding how to post prices.

However, as Yoleven (also from NJ) posted, "somewhere around February this year, GB changed its 'preference' of primary price posting to the CASH price.

??????????????????

Being someone who also drives in many diverse areas, I have noticed many stations, both in the US and Canada, now charge different prices when paying cash.

Indeed, some stations charge much more when paying by credit. Please be aware of the CASH/CREDIT price difference. It could cost you.

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GLM4205
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2012 6:09:25 AM

cc
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nds76
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2012 10:28:34 AM

I try to pay cash now. Credit card bills catch up to you quickly. I will continue to post cash prices since that is our default currency. I will NOT bother to post a stations prices if they have different prices based on how you pay as I do not agree with that practice.
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CrackedLCD
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2012 1:47:37 AM

mwhals I think you may start to see more cash/credit price differences in the future. They are not common where I live except for diesel fuel (which is a bugger for me since I buy diesel almost exclusively and no one posts the correct prices most of the time.)

More and more stations are converting the pumps to dual-pricing capable, though. Just since the start of this year I've found two or three within 15 miles that have changed over to this system, even though they haven't begun pricing different for cash/credit yet.
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mwhals
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2012 4:34:41 PM

Locally, all the stations around here have one price. I didn't even know that some stations were still charging more for credit purchases.
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20Yoleven
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2012 8:15:11 AM



As of somewhere around February this year, GB changed its 'preference'
of primary price posting to the CASH price.

This makes 'perfect' sense, as nearly 14% of consumers are still
using cash to purchase fuel.

As for myself, I fall into the 'minority' that uses a card
(always debit), so I always post the ACTUAL card price in the
Comments line, if applicable. Posting the actual spotted price,
as opposed to "credit 8¢ more", etc., is, I feel more helpful,
as stations occasionally raise or lower this 'fee'.

If the price is the same (cash or credit), I furnish that 411.

And that is MY solution until GB gets the dual-pricing
software up & running...
;}

Note to Gas_Buddy (from Maryland):

This ain't 'death' or 'taxes', if you catch my drift...
Lighten up!

[Edited by: 20Yoleven at 7/29/2012 8:22:22 AM EST]
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BarneyDog
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 9:37:26 PM

I post stations that are the same price for cash or credit.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 8:01:08 PM

After reading the three most recent posts, I have to wonder if the members read what others wrote earlier in this discussion, or read the Gas Buddy guidelines about price posting.

The definitive answer to the original post, as has been explained and referenced multiple times is the cash price is to be posted. That's according to the operators of this website.

Whether anyone wonders about who carries cash or anything else is irrelevant. The Gas Buddy management has determined what should be posted and, as long as they operate the website, their guidance is definitive and final.
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WEIT48
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 7:08:26 PM

If you post a cash price let it be known in the comments. Who even carries cash?
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bithehr
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2012 8:10:06 AM

both
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JohnnieWest
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 3:08:45 PM

They should post the highest price, which is credit. However, I will post the lowest price, cash, and on the comment section, I would post "Credit price is..."
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20Yoleven
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 8:13:28 AM



As of somewhere around February this year, GB changed its 'preference'
of primary price posting to the CASH price.

This makes 'perfect' sense, as nearly 14% of consumers are still
using cash to purchase fuel.

As for myself, I fall into the 'minority' that uses a card
(always debit), so I always post the ACTUAL card price in the
Comments line, if applicable. Posting the actual spotted price,
as opposed to "credit 8¢ more", etc., is, I feel more helpful,
as stations occasionally raise or lower this 'fee'.

If the price is the same (cash or credit), I furnish that 411.

And that is MY solution until GB gets the dual-pricing
software up & running...
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jovien
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2012 10:38:02 AM

It would be nice to have a designate for cash or credit so people can choose if it's either.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2012 8:10:06 AM

GB changed the FAQ w/out announcing to "cash".
My assumption is that it was with the increase in Apps users and increase in some areas of cash/credit dual pricing. Several problems exist with either method.

1 - This helps those with cash find the lowest prices, but the recent survey shows that cash payers are only 20% of GB.

2 -In many places the price on the sign at dual price stations is cash, so that is what is posted except maybe by those that actually stop in to fill up. So the cash price is posted by default since it is on the sign. [CA apparently requires both cash and credit posted if different, but not so most other places.] Stations are not required to post credit on the sign.

3 - You are encouraged to put cash discount in comments but most don't bother.

4- Comments are not durable so even if the comment is made by someone, the next lazy person over-writes the comment w/ blank comment.

5 - there is no durable flag for a dual priced station. Thus many GBrs are frustrated when they get off an exit where there is good pricing just to find that if they had stopped at the previous station/exit they would have had better pricing when traveling. Most folks pay with credit especially when traveling or on business.

6 - change not well communicated causing GBrs to operate under different sets of rules - and others breaking rules because they are credit users and find the cash price does not help them find the lowest price - the goal of being a GB member.


[Edited by: TXJEANS at 7/21/2012 8:12:49 AM EST]
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olympusman2004
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2012 3:18:48 AM

credit
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MsPeachi747
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 10:34:45 PM

Some Marathon posts both.
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luvmyburgi
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 8:51:16 PM

depends
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2012 1:34:48 PM

alp and aaamanMI:

Your posts blow, saying "Credit", sound definitive on your part, and no further explanation seemed necessary (other than people don't carry a spare $50 in cash for gas, although if you needed cash for gas it wouldn't seem like it would be "spare" money, it would be needed or dedicated money).

However, inasmuch as the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) section reads "...we ask that you post the cash price where it exists. If the station does not offer a cash price, the standard price should be reported.", perhaps you can explain where you got your guidance.

As the answer contained in the FAQ section appeared definitive, it seemed that this topic could have been closed earlier as being complete.

Or, if the moderators defer to alp and aaamanMI decisions that credit prices should be posted, perhaps the moderators can say so, and then close this topic as being complete (and then, of course, update the guidance in the FAQ section).
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alp
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2012 12:51:16 PM

credit. too many folks don't carry a spare $50 in cash for gas.
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TheMomma
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2012 11:30:47 AM

cash always
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aaamanMI
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2012 9:44:06 AM

credit
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elcid1300
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 11:42:17 AM

cash
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 9:15:39 AM

rjrjr ???? Huh? I have never seen a station list a separate price for DEBIT. The FAQ reads "...we ask that you post the cash price where it exists. If the station does not offer a cash price, the standard price should be reported.", perhaps you can explain why you say "DEBIT"? Debit is usually charged at the CREDIT price at dual price stations.
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rjrjr
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 8:19:01 AM

usually debit
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 7:56:51 PM

DOMFL:
Your post below, saying "Credit", sounds definitive on your part, and no further explanation seemed necessary (on your part).

Inasmuch as the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) section reads "...we ask that you post the cash price where it exists. If the station does not offer a cash price, the standard price should be reported.", perhaps you can explain where you got your guidance.

As the answer contained in the FAQ section is definitive, perhaps this topic can now be closed as being complete.

Or, if the moderators defer to DOMFL's decision, perhaps they can say so, and then close this topic as being complete (and then, of course, update the guidance in the FAQ section).

After either event (the moderators determining that the current FAQ section answer is correct or they defer to DOMFL's response as being correct), it appears this discussion is moot and no more discussion necessary.

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DOMFL
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 10:18:53 AM

Credit
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 7:45:20 AM

The problem is that those post often from the signs. In states other than California, they likely do not post both cash and credit. If those that post from the sign, don't bother putting in even a comment about dual pricing, let alone the price differential. GB needs to add a durable flag to the MSL to at least designate that it is a dual priced station so we know we are taking a risk relying on the "posted" price if credit price is not noted.
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CrackedLCD
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 2:52:48 AM

TH34, when you're on fumes, you'll pay anything. 10 gallons at $3.009 is $30.09, versus $3.089 at $30.89, so it's not *that* much of a difference.

Where it frustrates is those looking for a good deal, and stopping in and wasting time when they thought it'd be one price and it's really another. I did that while in California and it drove me crazy because I drove about three miles out of my way to save 10¢, only to find out that was a "cash price" and I had no cash, only credit.
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TH34
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2012 1:47:49 PM

The rules say cash. If you do post cash prices, at least have the decency to post the credit surcharge. I post credit prices with an explanation of the cash discount. This was the way the rules used to be but since almost nobody followed them, they caved in and said post the cash prices with a comment. Nobody ever puts a comment when the cash price is posted. I don't know who to blame, the banks the stations or this site for the deception this ends up causing. An even bigger problem is the variance of cash "discounts". I have seen as much as 8¢ per gallon difference. What a surprise that would be if you were running out of gas, and did not carry a lot of cash, and pulled up to the pump only to find out what you would really pay.
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aaamanMI
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2012 1:25:01 PM

credit
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 9:40:30 PM

alp "The only solution is to have a way to post ALL the prices for each station. "

That won't in itself solve the problem. In many parts of the country the stations are not required to post cash and credit and only post the cash. If someone is posting by the sign, they may not know the difference between the cash and credit pricing. And, currently, we have a means of noting in comments but too many are too lazy to even post that it is a cash with credit up-charge.

What we need is a durable flag that indicates it is a dual priced station along with fields to enter both cash and credit when available.
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alp
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2012 8:46:26 PM

The problem with the current situation, as it stands, is that when I look for a place to fill the car, I don't know if the price is cash or credit. Using a credit card with cash back rewards (3-4% on gas) I usually will prefer the credit purchase if the difference is less than that, which it usually is. But now I have NO WAY to know what to expect when I go to get gas out of my local area. So GasBuddy has made the site pretty useless except for very local use.

The only solution is to have a way to post ALL the prices for each station.
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GLM4205
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2012 7:02:51 AM

Mostly cc.
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2012 11:40:17 AM

cash
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Cooter01
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2012 8:28:59 AM

The price is the same in my area for cash or credit, I always use the card.
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W707
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 2:38:21 AM

in my area the price is the same per gallon cash or credit dont make any difference so i use credit.
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GLM4205
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2012 6:28:22 AM

CC
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 8:28:42 PM

Cookie - what I was saying, I have never seen a place post the higher credit price ALONE -
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 5:47:41 PM

>"...if the greedy gas station owner is attempting to extract additional revenue."

Don't you mean, "...if the kind gas station owner is offering a discount to his customers."?
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rjrjr
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 3:09:20 PM

I post the lowest and add a note if the greedy gas station owner is attempting to extract additional revenue. The difference in cash vs. debit or cash is fractions of a penny...
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2amy
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 11:11:04 AM

I think everyone mis understood the question, Should we be posting cash? or credit? That was the question.
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 6:52:38 AM

"Gas stations ask for cash so that they avoid paying their fair share of taxes"

Got some facts to back that up, DOMFL?
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