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As Small Auto Businesses Flee California, Their Takeover Prospects Increase

Forbes -- The re-election of President Barack Obama is expected to lead to tightening of already stringent environmental regulations on automotive businesses in California. Coupled with high state taxes, this will guarantee a continued exodus of California manufacturers to neighboring states like Idaho, said Bill Pollock, CEO of Phenix Industries.

Pollock, whose small family owned company manufactures auto parts for race cars, moved the company’s headquarters from Riverside, California to Eagle, Idaho last October, after years of butting heads with local regulators. He is now raising money through a private investor for a 200-acre industrial facility in Idaho that, upon its expected completion in 18 to 24 months, will provide business space to between 30 and 50 automotive manufacturers.


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sillywagon
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 10:27:29 PM

It's like the novel "Atlas Shrugged" is becoming reality in California.
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oilfreak
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Glad I'm in Texas, one of the most business friendly states in the union.
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California, being the lumbering giant that it is, won't realize the business exitus until it's too late.
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Glad I live in GA.
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bar1035 - It will not be long before they demand more Federal dollars to pay for it (your $$$ and my $$$).
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 7:27:21 AM

No worries for Kal-i-forn-i-a. The liberals will stay and pay
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Nice place to visit..............
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 4:45:13 AM

Nice advertising piece for his development but the fact is that small business can't grow in CA. Costs are too high and regulation too much. Since NUMMI closed, not much reason to locate here anyway.
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 4:45:01 AM

When fools run a state you can leave. What do you do when fools run the country?
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EPA and Obama are killing small business, but America you voted for this BS.
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The only question I have is, what has taken them so long?
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business friendly locations often get the businesses
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The meandering stream of companies leaving California has been going on for several years. Now it has turned into a flood.
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:36:36 AM

silly article... blame Pres Obama??? the state already has higher emissons standards....
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Idaho' s big gain and California's BIGGER LOSS!!
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CA has been sealing their own fate for ages now.
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Not good
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:07:12 AM

Any reason is a good reason to leave California!
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really
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Great move.
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California does go overboard a lot of times!
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:53:25 AM

ok
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Bye bye, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
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Way too many controls in CA. They're going to lose their edge.
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It is if someone tilted the United States and all the loose screws slid into California.
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The voters in California did this to them selves.
And those how got dragged down kicking screaming have little other choice than to leave.
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Not planning a move to CA.
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I'd leave California, too, if I owned a business there.
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Don't remind me.
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O.K.
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Everything is higher in Ca. than most other states.
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:31:17 AM

yup Jeeputtputt:

they asked for it, and in the process, they take those of us who knew better, down with them..

california: the first socialist dead state of nobama..
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:31:03 AM

This is crazy
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its like rats fleeing a sinking ship
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they voted for "the amateur"
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:27:26 AM

tedjm1, if that were to be implemented, it would result in a tremendous paucity of qualified leaders, leading to business deterioration and job losses for the rank & file.

Based on your post, I'm guessing you haven't been in a senior management position, correct?
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When will the savior and chief use executive order to stop business from moving or selling out befor the cliff?
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it really helps when it becomes too expensive to run your business where you want too unless you pay too much and get too little
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Only insane morons would stay in Crazy California.
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and the hit keep coming
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southern california is far too expensive for a manufacturing operation
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Another good reason to live in Canada.
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:23:16 AM

the cliff is already here. everyone that is on the take has voted...
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Everyone will soon come to their senses.
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:22:54 AM

move
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common sense.
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Hey snakebitef22, movie companies are already in Texas. The gas is cheaper.
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There should be term limits for all public,. managerial & up, positions.
There should be no carry-over of pension benefits should one get a job within said area of work. Must stop this high paid people who 'earn' money at a rate unheard of in private industry.
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Sounds like california is in for big changes
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Time for wart removal from North America ?
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