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Congress considers NHTSA reforms in wake of Toyota recalls

The Detroit News -- Congress plans to toughen fines against automakers for safety breeches, and give government regulators more money and authority to speed recalls.

Congress also may require vehicle electronic data recorders -- so-called "black boxes" -- as well as brake override systems to help motorists stop runaway vehicles, and bar former government regulators from taking jobs with automakers for at least two years.

The proposed overhaul of auto safety laws, the biggest in more than a decade, was triggered by what critics call plodding action by Toyota Motor Corp. and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in the worldwide recall of 8.5 million vehicles for sudden acceleration concerns.

NHTSA had eight separate investigations into sudden acceleration since 2000.

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Submitted Mar 12, 2010 By: dwgt.net

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,252 Points:1,141,025 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:55:32 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse wwcj: how about installing a common sense button? Too many folks don't even know how to really drive anymore and ask them about a minor thing on their vehicle and they look at you like you're talking some proverbial Greek...
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,252 Points:1,141,025 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:54:25 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse FuelBarge: good one!
FuelBarge Champion Author Long Island Posts:6,796 Points:1,608,315 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:14:06 AM Ignore FuelBarge Report Abuse Fix NHTSA? Get in line behind the FDA, USDA, SEC, etc.
wwcj Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,582 Points:383,715 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 8:40:01 AM Ignore wwcj Report Abuse We have start buttons why not kill switches! Would be a simple solutions, instead of massive re-engineering, but then that would not create as many union jobs.
mandoid Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:5,037 Points:1,083,080 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 8:34:03 AM Ignore mandoid Report Abuse how about firings when the government employee screws up
MUSTANGSRUS Champion Author Ontario Posts:7,373 Points:1,506,045 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 8:19:17 AM Ignore MUSTANGSRUS Report Abuse Give them some real teeth. Why not put a kill switch on all cars and trucks? NASCAR has this rule because of past accidents. Just think of young Adam Petty. He was killed because of a stuck throttle. Takes a big name to die before really big changes are made.
JimL1 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:5,739 Points:806,475 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 8:15:26 AM Ignore JimL1 Report Abuse Why does this article not say that "NHTSA had eight separate investigations into sudden acceleration," during the Bush administration, with nothing of substance ever happening. If they had of been during the Obama administration, we all know that the line would not have been, "NHTSA had eight separate investigations into sudden acceleration since 2000."
FuelOilOH Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,338 Points:944,805 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:55:39 AM Ignore FuelOilOH Report Abuse Sure, the gov't pours money into programs and we get to pay for it, both in taxes and the cost of vehicles.
wegman Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:5,486 Points:1,626,560 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:52:02 AM Ignore wegman Report Abuse Mandatory black boxes. I wonder how much that will add to the price of a car, especially a low-end car. And can you ban someone who no longer works for the government, and NOT collecting a pension, from working for a civilian employer? How does that work and does it stand up in court?
dabayer Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:1,559 Points:392,730 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:50:45 AM Ignore dabayer Report Abuse Well here we go again: Thanks Mr. Bush for a job well done.
rvn4me Champion Author Texas Posts:3,259 Points:1,029,740 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:44:56 AM Ignore rvn4me Report Abuse If these fines were going to the consumers affected by the problens it woul be o.k.. But the gov will keep the money and waste it.
arinkrat17 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,994 Points:866,020 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:44:34 AM Ignore arinkrat17 Report Abuse gov't wants their hands in everything
Rick01 Champion Author Utah Posts:6,634 Points:1,907,465 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:43:16 AM Ignore Rick01 Report Abuse Toyota brought a problem to it's head. To bad they got caught trying to cover it up. The Feds are the only ones to get away with playing CYA!
no_monkey2002 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:6,213 Points:1,620,775 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:41:49 AM Ignore no_monkey2002 Report Abuse this is the new change in the oBAMA rule
4wheel Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:16,164 Points:2,277,045 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:41:19 AM Ignore 4wheel Report Abuse Typical Government run agency!
Spetsnaz Champion Author Dayton Posts:1,711 Points:591,795 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:39:42 AM Ignore Spetsnaz Report Abuse Congress needs to just step down and move out!
Zuman Champion Author New York Posts:3,883 Points:1,441,655 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:39:34 AM Ignore Zuman Report Abuse LETS REFORM CONGRESS....................
the1roadhog Champion Author Atlanta Posts:7,703 Points:1,593,630 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:37:19 AM Ignore the1roadhog Report Abuse Congress needs to prioritize their actions.
foxups Champion Author Toledo Posts:3,252 Points:645,060 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:37:06 AM Ignore foxups Report Abuse too little too late
LocalSpyGuy Champion Author Tampa Posts:5,474 Points:1,119,245 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:32:44 AM Ignore LocalSpyGuy Report Abuse I can forgive a mistake but not a cover up.
cv Champion Author Raleigh Posts:12,831 Points:2,798,605 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:31:02 AM Ignore cv Report Abuse Congress should consider disbanding and just go home.
ky_commuter75 Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:5,206 Points:1,485,565 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:30:50 AM Ignore ky_commuter75 Report Abuse How about laws that govern the government? Considering all their mistakes are paid by us.
THEDodgeman Champion Author Denver Posts:5,626 Points:1,479,580 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:28:25 AM Ignore THEDodgeman Report Abuse MORONS.......
SUV2009 Champion Author Orlando Posts:3,107 Points:733,890 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:27:59 AM Ignore SUV2009 Report Abuse Do not believe this will solve any problems just create more and increase cost to us the consumer.
niceguytx Champion Author Houston Posts:11,407 Points:2,250,070 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:26:14 AM Ignore niceguytx Report Abuse The government has no incentive to do anything well.
thedennis64 Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,015 Points:783,370 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:26:03 AM Ignore thedennis64 Report Abuse Bigger government = more problems.
jppezz Champion Author New Mexico Posts:6,225 Points:1,224,605 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:23:51 AM Ignore jppezz Report Abuse The government never runs anything right.
turbosaab Champion Author Cleveland Posts:14,937 Points:1,945,015 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:21:53 AM Ignore turbosaab Report Abuse The NHTSA needs to be more flexible and responsive. Expanding the bureaucracy will not lead to reform.
TomT2Lee Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:3,807 Points:1,167,120 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:21:18 AM Ignore TomT2Lee Report Abuse Congress needs reform. Time behind bars.
gasandgoAL Champion Author Alabama Posts:4,653 Points:1,121,795 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:20:56 AM Ignore gasandgoAL Report Abuse I am tired of any government interferring. they mess up everything and then pass the cost on to the public
dave364 Champion Author Lansing Posts:3,198 Points:1,007,320 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:17:06 AM Ignore dave364 Report Abuse they have been sitting on their hands since the beginning of it's existence
Valricoslash Champion Author Tampa Posts:4,285 Points:885,395 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:16:52 AM Ignore Valricoslash Report Abuse Big government bureacracy. How many more employees will Obama add to the Federal government to take care of this? I read a report that showed that congestion is down all over the country due to the Obama economy, but not in DC, where the number of government employees is increasing. Go figure. LOL
biza4u Champion Author New Haven Posts:6,172 Points:1,163,885 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:16:45 AM Ignore biza4u Report Abuse As they should especilly in toyotas case
WonderfulMI Champion Author Michigan Posts:9,019 Points:1,319,805 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:14:39 AM Ignore WonderfulMI Report Abuse Many government regulatory watchdogs were gutted during the Republican administration because it was perceived as "good for business".
salgood Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,132 Points:563,705 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:14:07 AM Ignore salgood Report Abuse In Japan their culture ignores problems like they're having at Toyota. Here we used to take responsibility for our actions - now our children are taught that feelings and happy thoughts are more important than hard work and accountability. I find it extremely hard to believe that getting Congress more involved will help the situation.
Masercal Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,610 Points:780,740 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:13:48 AM Ignore Masercal Report Abuse It's about time the automakers faced tougher penatlies.
Hangnail309 Champion Author Manitoba Posts:3,792 Points:1,230,555 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:13:42 AM Ignore Hangnail309 Report Abuse A little bit to late for today, but going ahead this may help ...
rocket_ron Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:3,913 Points:1,527,945 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:13:40 AM Ignore rocket_ron Report Abuse What do you expect from gov't employees. The reforms are only going to get politicians into the spotlight, not solve any problems.
bar1035 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:5,812 Points:831,675 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:13:28 AM Ignore bar1035 Report Abuse nascar already has a kill switch.
PurduePete86 Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,077 Points:891,615 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:13:19 AM Ignore PurduePete86 Report Abuse NHTSA has always been a neutered dog when it comes to foreign car companies.
Don1222 Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,802 Points:1,089,855 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:10:59 AM Ignore Don1222 Report Abuse I have a solution to 'runaway' cars. Don't buy Toyota!!!
Eichhornchen Champion Author Detroit Posts:3,772 Points:747,390 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:09:33 AM Ignore Eichhornchen Report Abuse They need to be restructured
CSharpGuy Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:7,111 Points:1,432,185 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:08:00 AM Ignore CSharpGuy Report Abuse The whole government needs to be reformed. And voters will do it in November.
madison8359 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:5,731 Points:1,126,665 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:06:24 AM Ignore madison8359 Report Abuse The unfortunate part of this proposal is that, as usual, it is a day late and a dollar short, especially for those deceased Toyota owners. It is always unfortunate when government has to step in and regulate our economic system. But that is the price we pay for Toyota's "oversight"! In spite of all the concern the problems appear to be limited to Toyota and its lack of safety awareness, now all will have to pay!
adr47 Champion Author Saskatchewan Posts:4,840 Points:1,016,830 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:05:44 AM Ignore adr47 Report Abuse The companies should fix problem rather than trying to buy off politicians and beauracrats. Then extra controls would not be necessary.
BigdaddyMA Sophomore Author Massachusetts Posts:163 Points:154,070 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:03:44 AM Ignore BigdaddyMA Report Abuse The best way to stop a run away vehicle is a mechanical fuel shut off like they have on alot of the race cars. [Edited by: BigdaddyMA at 3/12/2010 7:04:18 AM EST]
Grismer Champion Author Kitchener-Waterloo Posts:6,258 Points:1,271,445 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:03:15 AM Ignore Grismer Report Abuse Just how soon will these considerations are implemented and enforced. Time is very short until the the Chinese imports will be arriving.
mlhog Veteran Author Minnesota Posts:329 Points:223,685 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 7:01:34 AM Ignore mlhog Report Abuse little to late
weenerdog Champion Author Detroit Posts:7,334 Points:1,437,635 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:59:09 AM Ignore weenerdog Report Abuse i'm sure that will increase the price of cars
TerryLee Champion Author Ohio Posts:13,855 Points:2,632,895 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 6:59:04 AM Ignore TerryLee Report Abuse What about the over a million recalls Govt. Motors had?