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Court upholds EPA's greenhouse gas rules

Reuters -- (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court on Tuesday upheld the first-ever U.S. proposed rules governing heat-trapping greenhouse gases, clearing a path for sweeping regulations affecting vehicles, coal-burning power plants and other industrial facilities.

Handing a setback to industry and a victory to the Obama administration, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia unanimously ruled the Environmental Protection Agency's finding that carbon dioxide is a public danger and the decision to set limits for emissions from cars and light trucks were "neither arbitrary nor capricious."

The ruling, which addresses four separate lawsuits, upholds the underpinnings of the Obama administration's push to regulate carbon dioxide emissions, and is a rebuke to a major push by heavy industries

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Submitted Jun 27, 2012 By: aservant

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OWENALOTT Champion Author Appleton Posts:2,182 Points:500,095 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 9:34:41 PM Ignore OWENALOTT Report Abuse Thank you for posting. interesting read.
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,013 Points:600,660 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 1:19:09 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
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CDMAuto Champion Author Connecticut Posts:3,806 Points:756,780 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:21:34 AM Ignore CDMAuto Report Abuse The EPA is a bunch of humans that think they know everything........but know not....
NedW Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:5,625 Points:1,144,345 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 12:45:13 AM Ignore NedW Report Abuse Chop 2/3 of EPA funding, rules and regs, and watch the economy bounce back like a super ball.
Alaydown Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,126 Points:824,595 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 12:17:13 AM Ignore Alaydown Report Abuse Permafrost has melted before. Viking farms in Greenland are under permafrost today, which means that land was not frozen at the time. You will find similar examples in the Andes of South America. There was a 500 year period in the middle ages when the earth was much warmer than it is today. The Arctic has also been without ice in the past. In any case, the polar regions are gaining ice, not losing it. The planet has been cooling for the last 10+, not heating. The temperature today is about what it was around 1940. That is why they are calling it "climate change" today instead of global warming. Back in the 70s, many of these same scientists claimed we were headed for another ice age. They claimed back then that man was causing the earth to cool. These are topics that are inconvenient truths to the global warming scientists. [Edited by: Alaydown at 6/28/2012 12:21:45 AM EST]
RogerB Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:18,071 Points:2,626,060 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 12:16:23 AM Ignore RogerB Report Abuse "Sounds like Obama has the EPA in his back pocket. Oh wait! He does."
AUREOLAE Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,364 Points:801,165 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 12:10:20 AM Ignore AUREOLAE Report Abuse Just wait till the Pole Shift happens. the poles are a-movin! No more Arctic, it'll appear somewhere else, and a lot will pay for it. Here are some future maps of the US. Happy Browsing!
rawdog1313 Champion Author Lexington Posts:3,319 Points:1,645,830 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 12:07:03 AM Ignore rawdog1313 Report Abuse As well they should!
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,568 Points:1,174,430 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 12:06:07 AM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse hambone61, "Get rid of algore and all his misguided friends and earth worshippers and there would be no problem. Then close the EPA and put a lock on the door and subject them to an independent audit. Gonna have to start rolling back the life and business stifling govt. and start obeying the Constitution." ==================== Yes, yes, yes hambone, psrhaps you have "the" solution to our energy needs???
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Hoporrene Veteran Author Mississippi Posts:312 Points:206,970 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:53:46 PM Ignore Hoporrene Report Abuse yeah
Jeannemarie Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:27,700 Points:2,035,640 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:52:02 PM Ignore Jeannemarie Report Abuse Actually what we have to worry about will occur far sooner and that is the loss of land along the seaboards, the inundations of low-lying island chains, including the complete disappearance of places like Florida, the Louisiana coast, the Mississippi coast, ditto Alabama, Texas etc. And California will lose miles and miles of beaches as will Oregon and Washington although those Northern areas are generally on higher ground due to the ramifications of natural progressions.
regout Champion Author Quebec Posts:2,965 Points:834,655 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:49:33 PM Ignore regout Report Abuse Ok
Hambone61 Champion Author Oregon Posts:14,482 Points:2,510,235 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:49:04 PM Ignore Hambone61 Report Abuse Get rid of algore and all his misguided friends and earth worshippers and there would be no problem. Then close the EPA and put a lock on the door and subject them to an independent audit. Gonna have to start rolling back the life and business stifling govt. and start obeying the Constitution.
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,568 Points:1,174,430 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:46:10 PM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse Jrsva, "The earth is warming slowly but the Arctic is warming rapidly. When the Arctic ice cap is gone and the permafrost melted, there will be a massive release of methane into the atmosphere. Game over. Planet uninhabitable." ????????????? Hopefully not!
Alaydown Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,126 Points:824,595 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:45:35 PM Ignore Alaydown Report Abuse PDQBlues and jrsva, it won't cause just a few cents increase. You will be looking at paying much much more. Obama promised energy prices would skyrocket under his plan, and you will see it. As for global warming, it is a hoax and has been proven as such. The earth has warmed and cooled many times since the earth has begun. We have seen ice ages and periods where it has been much hotter (such as the 500 year period in the middle ages) while man has roamed the earth. Man has not affected any of it. It is a natural process. Give up this religious zealousness you have and research the subject yourself!
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sf49ers529 Rookie Author Stockton Posts:26 Points:270,165 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:40:46 PM Ignore sf49ers529 Report Abuse Just imagine how much money we would save if we didn't have the EPA wasting time and getting paid for it. Why cut education when we could cut the EPA.
NhCobra Sophomore Author New Hampshire Posts:109 Points:430,720 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:36:28 PM Ignore NhCobra Report Abuse Increased CO2 = more plantlife = more oxygen = Less CO2. Not a bad thing. It's also been shown (by NASA, though they didn't report this until testifying before congress) that our atmosphere actually filters what the atmosphere doesn't need into space, while trapping the gases the earth (& we) DO need. And while artic ice pack melts in th west, it expands in the west. Polar bears are as happy as a fiddle. Ohhhh, right, and the temp of the earth has been dropping the last 10-12 years. But don't let these facts get in the way of hoax if you don't want to ;)
dave1745 Champion Author Gary Posts:1,262 Points:740,625 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:36:04 PM Ignore dave1745 Report Abuse epa sucks
Dsin44 Champion Author Abbotsford Posts:1,272 Points:273,185 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:35:46 PM Ignore Dsin44 Report Abuse money money and more money...
Bezalel Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:12,112 Points:2,293,675 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:25:40 PM Ignore Bezalel Report Abuse The EPA and other government entities have wasted a lot of money. They need to be eliminated or fixed.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,866 Points:1,615,135 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:25:08 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse “The same people that are cheering this decision will be whining the loudest when they realize how much it is going to cost them.” Hopefully not. Yes, doing the right thing will cost some money. Maintaining the status quo by burning more coal and oil, pumping more and more CO2 into the atmosphere, will cost far more in the long run. The earth is warming slowly but the Arctic is warming rapidly. When the Arctic ice cap is gone and the permafrost melted, there will be a massive release of methane into the atmosphere. Game over. Planet uninhabitable.
mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,237 Points:820,495 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:24:55 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse if they can prove the science behind it, then we can say yeah. if not, then get a better bunch of researchers and scientists
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,937 Points:1,577,905 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:23:41 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse another case for the SCOTUS
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,084 Points:1,450,275 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:21:29 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse "All energy prices (including gasoline) and many other product prices will skyrocket in cost because of this decision since CO2 is produced by just about every manufacturing plant including refineries. Who do they think will pay the extra cost? We consumers will. DUH! " So, I would rather pay a few extra cents and have less pollution. It's a win for the American People! If you want to live in a polluted capitalist nation, move to China.
VanIsleLes All-Star Author British Columbia Posts:898 Points:278,495 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:19:25 PM Ignore VanIsleLes Report Abuse Hmm
Alaydown Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,126 Points:824,595 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:18:03 PM Ignore Alaydown Report Abuse bvrbill: Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 8:05:35 PM "The same people that are cheering this decision will be whining the loudest when they realize how much it is going to cost them." ============================ You are absolutely correct! Those who claim that corporate giants lost and the people won are totally clueless about what this decision means. All energy prices (including gasoline) and many other product prices will skyrocket in cost because of this decision since CO2 is produced by just about every manufacturing plant including refineries. Who do they think will pay the extra cost? We consumers will. DUH! Aside from that, the decision is stupid on its face because CO2 does no harm to this planet. You would think this were a decision for or against acid rain or everyone drinking poison, the way some of these people for the decision are posting. [Edited by: Alaydown at 6/27/2012 11:20:44 PM EST]
NhCobra Sophomore Author New Hampshire Posts:109 Points:430,720 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:17:23 PM Ignore NhCobra Report Abuse It's too bad that only half-truths exist at th EPA and they refuse to look at the whole picture. Manmade global warming is NOT a problem if folks looked at (and if the lame-brain media reported) the real facts & truths of our atmosphere. But the media and the global warming believers won't look. The truth doesn't fit their agenda (which is why there was, & still is climategate).
jessek Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,657 Points:1,280,490 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:16:04 PM Ignore jessek Report Abuse EPA is overcontrolling.
AnObserver Champion Author New Jersey Posts:8,369 Points:2,260,705 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:15:13 PM Ignore AnObserver Report Abuse MidNJ - completely agree
Ray_10589 Champion Author New York Posts:4,956 Points:1,184,935 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:13:22 PM Ignore Ray_10589 Report Abuse MidNJ ... good points
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,568 Points:1,174,430 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:09:15 PM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse Clermont40, I agree, we must not let anyone "Tread on me"! (your avatar is A Great Flag from USA in 1776.) However, we are living in 2012 and, are you saying that polluted water and air does not impact us, or our children's children who will live in 2076? ????????????????????????????? You posted "Congress needs to ELIMINATE the EPA Now". ???????????? Perhaps you believe all we need in the future is cheap gas for our cars so they can get bigger and go faster. ?????????????? Really, is that all we need to make our lives, - and the lives of our children - better?
DABEE1073 Champion Author San Diego Posts:8,215 Points:1,575,035 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:09:05 PM Ignore DABEE1073 Report Abuse IT IS TIME TOO DISBAND THE EPA.
LaVonneK Champion Author Iowa Posts:2,955 Points:628,700 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:08:47 PM Ignore LaVonneK Report Abuse Oh.
altima2008 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:8,175 Points:1,739,940 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:07:44 PM Ignore altima2008 Report Abuse Somehow we will still get screwed by this!
carranco Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,027 Points:269,765 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:07:04 PM Ignore carranco Report Abuse So wrong.
Sam195 Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:8,100 Points:1,577,025 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:06:50 PM Ignore Sam195 Report Abuse Judges are clueless.
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,238 Points:520,800 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:05:35 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse The same people that are cheering this decision will be whining the loudest when they realize how much it is going to cost them.
95Vette Champion Author Missouri Posts:2,525 Points:634,155 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:04:39 PM Ignore 95Vette Report Abuse The EPA is a financial burden on the taxpayer dollars
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mgune9 All-Star Author Dallas Posts:914 Points:200,395 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:02:43 PM Ignore mgune9 Report Abuse EPA a costly useless agency - doesn't serve the public cause
Edtx2009 Champion Author Houston Posts:1,986 Points:374,580 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 11:02:30 PM Ignore Edtx2009 Report Abuse Sounds like Obama has the EPA in his back pocket. Oh wait! He does.