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Ford tests extend hybrid battery life

Ottawa Sun -- Ford has developed a laboratory test that should give hybrid shoppers some peace of mind.

What’s the biggest concern for potential buyers of hybrid vehicles? Well, in a survey conducted for Ford, battery life beat out all other considerations including fuel economy and the number of safety features.

With that in mind, Ford has developed a laboratory test that should give hybrid shoppers some peace of mind. The test subjects the company’s new lithium-ion batteries to the equivalent of 10 years and 240,0000 km of use.

In the laboratory, Ford engineers can simulate the location of a battery within a vehicle, the extreme temperature ranges it might have to endure, and various kinds of wear and tear such as hard acceleration and frequent stopping. And all this can be done in the space


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2012 5:54:08 AM

I like the idea of recharge while being parked via solar energy...
DrCashFlow
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2012 12:04:44 AM

getting there
bston
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Message Posted: Dec 17, 2012 11:37:51 PM

Our Camry hybrid just went over 100K with no signs of loss of battery life thus far! It's a great car!
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Message Posted: Dec 17, 2012 11:14:49 PM

Keep the improvements coming
ceklea
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Message Posted: Dec 17, 2012 1:34:48 PM

Ford hopes to triple production of electrified vehicles by 2013, all equipped with "advanced lithium-ion batteries which can be up to 30% lighter, with almost three times the power of NiMH batteries."
honda0105
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Message Posted: Dec 17, 2012 5:57:38 AM

still not guaranteed.
livedream
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 10:14:38 PM

Good news! Great progress! Go Ford!
sillywagon
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 8:06:05 PM

Is this good news? At least the EPA isn't doing the tests. Ford has financial incentives to get accurate results.
Ahking
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 6:35:42 PM

going in the right direction.
my2002m
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 6:22:50 PM

I wonder if those tests are similar to the mileage tests of their hybrids. Maybe a little overstated.
335d1
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 4:26:38 PM

Good news.
jjjleblanc
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 4:05:57 PM

Step in the right direction.
MountainManATL
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 3:22:19 PM

Wow, out of 50 million cells installed in Ford vehicles, only 6 cells have ever failed. That's wonderful, but i am a tad skeptical given as many times as I've read on forums of people have battery packs replaced in Escape hybrids in early years.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 3:03:22 PM

need this in order to compete with the other alternatives
dave27johnson
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 2:52:16 PM

Batteries keep improving.
YumaFellow
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 2:34:22 PM

Sounds like advancements are being made. But I wonder how extreme the environment was in which the tests were made. Some Arizona drivers have complained that their hybrids don't work so well in the desert heat.
SUPERSTEVIEO
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 12:50:18 PM

sounds encouraging... but how reality representative is it???
unipanini
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 12:18:27 PM

cool
CVA19
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 11:44:10 AM

Um, ss70, that's 240,000 kilometers which converts to about 150,000 miles.

Maybe it is just an innocent omission, but nowhere in the article is there mention of the degradation percentage of the batteries at 10 years or 150,000 miles. Including the information that a consumer may only be able to travel half the distances or less toward the end of the battery life might sour the article.
ss70
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 11:20:35 AM

wow 250000 is a lot of miles and if they can improve the density at low cost that would make the battery tech great.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 11:15:56 AM

OK
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 10:59:50 AM

This is great news
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 10:59:34 AM

Sounds good...maybe my next vehicle.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 10:31:00 AM

Give me a good results.
tomok
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 10:30:10 AM

Ford tests extend hybrid battery life? Whatever the battery is made of, make sure it has the highest possible electrical capacity, longest possible range, quickest possible recharging time with the lightest weight to power for that EV or Inbred. It may not be Lead, NiCad, Lithium or some exotic material or mineral, just make sure it works like it was designed to do.
My current vehicle was paid off many years ago and I don't need any car payments now! I will drive my current vehicle into the ground before buying anything new, used, EV, Inbred, diesel, hydrogen, alternative fuel, CNG, concept and certainly NOT a Fiat, Prius, Tesla, Leaf, Volt or an NYC/hurricaneSandy Special 'exploding submarine' Fiskar Karma Inbred!
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
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skb69sa
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 10:18:57 AM

Ok, let them test it and share their results.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 10:17:34 AM

Excellent
diesel8888
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 10:17:30 AM

I'm glad that Ford is still innovative after all these years. I guess this explained why they are still in business. I wish they would make small Diesel engines for smaller car or trucks. Electric is a great alternative, but 100 mile range per day is not good enough. Hybrid? Go ask pepboys or your local mechanic if they would work on it?
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 10:16:38 AM

Ok, but not interested just yet.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 10:13:17 AM

Good.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 10:10:19 AM

This was a no-brainer.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 10:04:09 AM

I hope to drive my 2011 Focus quite a few more years - but maybe my next car will be a hybrid. Or an all-electric. I'll have to play this by ear.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 10:03:52 AM

Good for Ford testing and innovation.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:59:36 AM

There are still two members of the Ford family on the FMC board.
74celica
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:58:16 AM

will they warrant it for that long?
atdinut
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:58:15 AM

First off, Ford tries to make(and fool) the American public with the figures! 240K km is not quite 150K miles...............
wavery
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:56:54 AM

I would be more inclined to buy if the battery could be counted on to last that long.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:56:37 AM

We need to put lots of effort into battery rewearch.
mberg
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:56:27 AM

Good news for Ford, given the amount of negative publicity they've had recently.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:56:11 AM

a good sales tool
sit
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:54:45 AM

Still too short.
Rick01
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:53:19 AM

Ok, but not yet.
twiper1
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:51:35 AM

It looks like ford still has better ideas
NotmeuQc
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:50:08 AM

I at the moment am not considering an EV.
BillHeatherL
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:49:07 AM

i will keep my old truck
noonedwagfan
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:48:58 AM

At least we are not talking about getting longer extension cords.
slgas
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:48:41 AM

We'll have to wait and see the validity of the lab work.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:48:32 AM

ok
KillChain
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:48:11 AM

Keep testing, does not help if you are behind other car makers.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:47:20 AM

I am still not convinced that electric vehicles are the way to go.
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:46:28 AM

Hooray Ford!
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