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News Summary: Indianapolis to replace entire municipal fleet with electric, hybrid vehicles

The Washington Post -- GOING GREEN: Indianapolis wants to become the first major city to replace its entire fleet with electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles to reduce U.S. reliance on foreign-produced fuels.

LONG-TERM GOAL: Mayor Greg Ballard signed an executive order Wednesday mandating the city replace its current sedans with electric vehicles. The city hopes to complete the switch by 2025.

PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP: Indianapolis will also work with the private sector to phase in snow plows, fire trucks and other heavy vehicles that run on compressed natural gas, and it will ask automakers to develop a plug-in hybrid police car.

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Submitted Dec 13, 2012 By: Mudsprings

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LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,202,855 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Dec 14, 2012 10:39:17 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse I don't think you need an EV 4-wheel drive. Just put chains on the drive wheels...you will be fine. Remember these are cars! The HD plows, firetrucks, dump trucks etc, are running not on electricity but on CNG. Seems like a winner for all!
Wanda127 Champion Author Florida Posts:2,484 Points:912,080 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 10:46:10 PM Ignore Wanda127 Report Abuse What will they do in the cold weather & snow? I don't think any of the electric cars have 4 wheel drive.
peakkeller Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:1,674 Points:774,325 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 2:14:48 PM Ignore peakkeller Report Abuse With all the CNG in the US, it'll be hard to beat once the station infrastructure is there.
Skunk63 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,551 Points:556,375 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:33:06 PM Ignore Skunk63 Report Abuse CNG is the way to go. EV and hybrid technology just happens to be more convenient right now. But large fleets cannot expect to have long-term success using batteries technology that is constantly changing. CNG and the internal combustion engine are here to stay.
fracknsave Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,666 Points:58,000 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:22:32 PM Ignore fracknsave Report Abuse That will be good for the economy down there, as they will have to replace those EV's in just a couple years again. Brilliant!
Van_Halen Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,844 Points:639,505 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 10:42:11 AM Ignore Van_Halen Report Abuse . Idiots! The major and the city council should be jailed for wasting public funds! EVs and Hybrids can NOT stand up to the daily abuse that government vehicles go through! Idiots!
ss70 Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,639 Points:1,867,175 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 9:12:50 AM Ignore ss70 Report Abuse good for them ...
peabeax55 All-Star Author Atlanta Posts:713 Points:185,515 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:49:34 AM Ignore peabeax55 Report Abuse Good luck with that. Just make sure your mileage range is much greater than the Volt.
car253 Champion Author Ohio Posts:6,283 Points:1,466,670 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:48:43 AM Ignore car253 Report Abuse Not a smart move, tax payers will suffer and takers will get less service.
rockymountman Champion Author Roanoke Posts:1,949 Points:399,610 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:36:48 AM Ignore rockymountman Report Abuse what is the cost of the conversion and when will it break even.
coughlin Champion Author San Jose Posts:5,170 Points:1,114,940 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:21:23 AM Ignore coughlin Report Abuse Foolish.
mar2100 Veteran Author Cleveland Posts:348 Points:16,925 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:11:27 AM Ignore mar2100 Report Abuse Just hope they run when needed
bell05 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,240 Points:1,873,685 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:08:53 AM Ignore bell05 Report Abuse I don't know about this. I would need to see the study report.
doeslayersr Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,093 Points:869,080 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 7:51:26 AM Ignore doeslayersr Report Abuse I thought Indiana had more common sense than that.
Yooperheart Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,400 Points:524,100 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 7:50:46 AM Ignore Yooperheart Report Abuse There's your tax dollars at work.
cheap59 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,240 Points:960,020 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 6:56:22 AM Ignore cheap59 Report Abuse Good for them.
daytonabiker All-Star Author Florida Posts:895 Points:198,795 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 6:52:42 AM Ignore daytonabiker Report Abuse i would like to see the study that justified that expenditure, when does the city see a recapture of their investment in 2099 or later? oh cities do not have to worry about recouping their spent money ,after all its just taxpayer money
Radar1992 Champion Author Florida Posts:1,310 Points:307,240 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 6:35:31 AM Ignore Radar1992 Report Abuse And in two years they will be raising taxes to buy new batteries and dispose of the old ones....
Nancy&Len Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,038 Points:1,942,890 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 6:28:44 AM Ignore Nancy&Len Report Abuse Good luck ith the Spanky.
FPLREP Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,246 Points:2,445,325 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 5:46:44 AM Ignore FPLREP Report Abuse What is the projected cost versus gas diesel replacements?
hokieburgh Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,097 Points:461,475 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 5:14:14 AM Ignore hokieburgh Report Abuse the flat reality of Indy is conducive to EVs...not so locally
RogerB Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:18,046 Points:2,621,085 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 4:52:32 AM Ignore RogerB Report Abuse I'm proud of our mayor: The Mayor of Indianapolis announced that the city would purchase no more conventional gas vehicles. Most smaller vehicles will be either EV's or plug-in hybrids. Larger trucks will use CNG. Mayor Greg Ballard: City vehicles to use alternate fuels in 13 years The city’s new goal is to convert the entire city fleet — to electric, natural gas or hybrid vehicles in the next 13 years Starting now, an executive order signed by Ballard requires that all new vehicles purchased or leased for the city’s fleet, other than police cars, have electric or plug-in hybrid engines. The city also will work to replace heavy-duty trucks, including fire engines, with vehicles that run on compressed natural gas, which is cheaper overall than diesel. Ballard’s motivation is for Indianapolis to do its part, however small, to reduce the United States’ reliance on oil produced in dictatorships — a recurring factor, in his view, behind recent U.S. wars. “This choice will save lives,” he said. “We will save taxpayer dollars. And we’ll shift the balance of global strategic power.” Especially if other cities, as Ballard hopes, follow Indianapolis’ lead.
OHMS Champion Author Orange County Posts:13,706 Points:1,689,930 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 4:35:52 AM Ignore OHMS Report Abuse hello world; good buy Indy; thanks Mud; prayer in the air.
BIGOILEATURCRUD Champion Author North Carolina Posts:5,747 Points:1,375,575 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 4:31:06 AM Ignore BIGOILEATURCRUD Report Abuse Coming to a city near you soon!
pricewar Champion Author Ogden Posts:1,930 Points:272,290 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 3:33:59 AM Ignore pricewar Report Abuse Somebody has to buy them. Probably getting some kind of energy credit
JagXKR Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,144 Points:1,088,605 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 3:33:24 AM Ignore JagXKR Report Abuse Stupid politicians so behind what is the future fuel. Just like all the others morons that have no clue about the most abundant element in the UNIVERSE that just happens to be combustible. Jump on the latest trend without looking at the science. If they wanted to be true visionaries they would look into fuel cells otherwise they are spending money on a tech that has no future. Just like compact fluorescent bulbs will be replaced by LED bulbs as soon as the price comes down.
leeac Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,581 Points:430,980 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 2:54:37 AM Ignore leeac Report Abuse Indianapolis is a smart city. Lower operating expenses should be the goal of every government, business and individual.
djgunrunner Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:10,082 Points:2,345,680 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 2:17:17 AM Ignore djgunrunner Report Abuse Some how an plug in Police Car that has to be able to be in one location with emergency equipment running for hours at a time seems like something from Star Trek when they hit, Warp Speed.
SparkieMi Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:3,248 Points:585,500 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:51:39 AM Ignore SparkieMi Report Abuse This could be a boost to the plug-in hybrid vehicle development generation..
iFueler Champion Author Durham Posts:64,328 Points:176,575 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:47:26 AM Ignore iFueler Report Abuse sounds like may work for fixed-based vehicles, planned use vehicles operated within the jurisdiction or nearby
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:585 Points:141,960 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:24:55 AM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse Denver CO has a very successful CNG hygrid electric bus system.. this will be a transition that happens across the country.
CivicMA Champion Author Boston Posts:1,882 Points:533,145 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:19:39 AM Ignore CivicMA Report Abuse If efficient and financially sensible, sure. Fleets are where these alternative energy vehicles will fare best due to supporting infrastructure.
JohnofGB Champion Author Flint Posts:5,411 Points:1,094,245 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:17:44 AM Ignore JohnofGB Report Abuse Fleets that park their vehilces in the same spot night after night , can do this.
cutter1330 Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:8,025 Points:1,691,415 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:16:16 AM Ignore cutter1330 Report Abuse Waste of money.
Ray_10589 Champion Author New York Posts:4,931 Points:1,180,060 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:13:46 AM Ignore Ray_10589 Report Abuse waste of tax dollars
03Avalanche Sophomore Author Salt Lake City Posts:124 Points:280,990 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:13:12 AM Ignore 03Avalanche Report Abuse I don't understand why their are so many on here who bash hybrids along with electrics. Hybrids do run on gasoline as well as electric so you wouldn't be out of power in 50 miles! Do some research before spewing uninformed information please!
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:585 Points:141,960 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:08:38 AM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse lol - people on here sure seem to eat hate.
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,324 Points:1,529,650 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:05:11 AM Ignore OGW Report Abuse It just proves that you just have to be stupid to get elected as a mayor. Will he mandate that the crooks have to have EV's also so they can't out run the police cars?
bojiway1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:2,034 Points:476,010 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:04:58 AM Ignore bojiway1 Report Abuse What's next, RC helicopters. [Edited by: bojiway1 at 12/13/2012 1:06:07 AM EST]
SteelPenny Champion Author Dallas Posts:30,928 Points:2,604,790 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:04:29 AM Ignore SteelPenny Report Abuse Total waste.
rbrk02 Champion Author Rhode Island Posts:5,725 Points:814,305 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:56:49 AM Ignore rbrk02 Report Abuse Wasted tax dollars.
Zonk Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,471 Points:2,100,065 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:56:30 AM Ignore Zonk Report Abuse It is decisions like this which are needed to favorably impact electric/hybrid vehicles.
defiancegasman Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,080 Points:1,323,260 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:51:36 AM Ignore defiancegasman Report Abuse Plug-in police cars?? Just drive more than 50 miles and they will run out of juice, UNLESS THEY ARE OF THE CHEVY VOLT DESIGN!!
69Bonne Champion Author Gary Posts:1,140 Points:471,200 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:48:49 AM Ignore 69Bonne Report Abuse There will be a catch to this somewhere.
jkpsr Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,074 Points:1,100,930 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:48:03 AM Ignore jkpsr Report Abuse I guess I applaud this, but will the Indianapolis taxpayers?
Bill100 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:41,465 Points:1,159,920 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:39:03 AM Ignore Bill100 Report Abuse Major initiatives like this can never succeed as completely as envisioned.
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:585 Points:141,960 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:38:55 AM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse to explain the 13 year time frame - maybe they are planning to replace current vehicles when the service life of a vehicle warrents instead of immediately replacing vehicles which would be irresponsible. They mentioned CNG which many on here have said is the way to go. People come to this site to find cheaper fuel prices but seem more intent on criticizing any change whatsoever. And of course to find some way to connect every single problem to the President/democrats/liberals which they also now consider communists. [Edited by: WanderDan at 12/13/2012 12:41:03 AM EST]
Godozo All-Star Author Gary Posts:656 Points:555,765 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:38:15 AM Ignore Godozo Report Abuse And already the righties are praying for Indianapolis to fall apart – faster than they adapt the new cars and trucks. Never mind that they're trusting the heavy, important stuff with Natural Gas.
ican2step Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:1,676 Points:425,675 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:37:53 AM Ignore ican2step Report Abuse Whatever
MDTDriver Champion Author California Posts:9,714 Points:2,152,695 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:35:09 AM Ignore MDTDriver Report Abuse Just wait electric use cost will sky rocket very soon.