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News Summary: Indianapolis to replace entire municipal fleet with electric, hybrid vehicles

The Washington Post -- GOING GREEN: Indianapolis wants to become the first major city to replace its entire fleet with electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles to reduce U.S. reliance on foreign-produced fuels.

LONG-TERM GOAL: Mayor Greg Ballard signed an executive order Wednesday mandating the city replace its current sedans with electric vehicles. The city hopes to complete the switch by 2025.

PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP: Indianapolis will also work with the private sector to phase in snow plows, fire trucks and other heavy vehicles that run on compressed natural gas, and it will ask automakers to develop a plug-in hybrid police car.


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Submitted Dec 13, 2012 By: Mudsprings
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Dec 14, 2012 10:39:17 PM


I don't think you need an EV 4-wheel drive. Just put chains on the drive wheels...you will be fine. Remember these are cars!

The HD plows, firetrucks, dump trucks etc, are running not on electricity but on CNG.

Seems like a winner for all!
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Wanda127
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 10:46:10 PM

What will they do in the cold weather & snow? I don't think any of the electric cars have 4 wheel drive.
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peakkeller
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 2:14:48 PM

With all the CNG in the US, it'll be hard to beat once the station infrastructure is there.
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Skunk63
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:33:06 PM

CNG is the way to go. EV and hybrid technology just happens to be more convenient right now. But large fleets cannot expect to have long-term success using batteries technology that is constantly changing. CNG and the internal combustion engine are here to stay.
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fracknsave
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:22:32 PM

That will be good for the economy down there, as they will have to replace those EV's in just a couple years again. Brilliant!
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Van_Halen
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 10:42:11 AM

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Idiots! The major and the city council should be jailed for wasting public funds! EVs and Hybrids can NOT stand up to the daily abuse that government vehicles go through! Idiots!
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ss70
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 9:12:50 AM

good for them ...
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peabeax55
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:49:34 AM

Good luck with that. Just make sure your mileage range is
much greater than the Volt.
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car253
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:48:43 AM

Not a smart move, tax payers will suffer and takers will get less service.
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rockymountman
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:36:48 AM

what is the cost of the conversion and when will it break even.
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coughlin
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:21:23 AM

Foolish.
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mar2100
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:11:27 AM

Just hope they run when needed
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bell05
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:08:53 AM

I don't know about this. I would need to see the study report.
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doeslayersr
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 7:51:26 AM

I thought Indiana had more common sense than that.
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Yooperheart
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 7:50:46 AM

There's your tax dollars at work.
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cheap59
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 6:56:22 AM

Good for them.
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daytonabiker
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 6:52:42 AM

i would like to see the study that justified that expenditure,
when does the city see a recapture of their investment in 2099 or later?
oh cities do not have to worry about recouping their spent money ,after all its just taxpayer money
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Radar1992
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 6:35:31 AM

And in two years they will be raising taxes to buy new batteries and dispose of the old ones....
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Nancy&Len
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 6:28:44 AM

Good luck ith the Spanky.
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FPLREP
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 5:46:44 AM

What is the projected cost versus gas diesel replacements?
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hokieburgh
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 5:14:14 AM

the flat reality of Indy is conducive to EVs...not so locally
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RogerB
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 4:52:32 AM

I'm proud of our mayor:

The Mayor of Indianapolis announced that the city would purchase no more conventional gas vehicles. Most smaller vehicles will be either EV's or plug-in hybrids. Larger trucks will use CNG.

Mayor Greg Ballard: City vehicles to use alternate fuels in 13 years

The city’s new goal is to convert the entire city fleet — to electric, natural gas or hybrid vehicles in the next 13 years

Starting now, an executive order signed by Ballard requires that all new vehicles purchased or leased for the city’s fleet, other than police cars, have electric or plug-in hybrid engines. The city also will work to replace heavy-duty trucks, including fire engines, with vehicles that run on compressed natural gas, which is cheaper overall than diesel.

Ballard’s motivation is for Indianapolis to do its part, however small, to reduce the United States’ reliance on oil produced in dictatorships — a recurring factor, in his view, behind recent U.S. wars.

“This choice will save lives,” he said. “We will save taxpayer dollars. And we’ll shift the balance of global strategic power.”

Especially if other cities, as Ballard hopes, follow Indianapolis’ lead.
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OHMS
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 4:35:52 AM

hello world; good buy Indy; thanks Mud; prayer in the air.
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 4:31:06 AM

Coming to a city near you soon!
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pricewar
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 3:33:59 AM

Somebody has to buy them. Probably getting some kind of energy credit
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JagXKR
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 3:33:24 AM

Stupid politicians so behind what is the future fuel. Just like all the others morons that have no clue about the most abundant element in the UNIVERSE that just happens to be combustible. Jump on the latest trend without looking at the science. If they wanted to be true visionaries they would look into fuel cells otherwise they are spending money on a tech that has no future. Just like compact fluorescent bulbs will be replaced by LED bulbs as soon as the price comes down.
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leeac
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 2:54:37 AM

Indianapolis is a smart city. Lower operating expenses should be the goal of every government, business and individual.
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djgunrunner
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 2:17:17 AM

Some how an plug in Police Car that has to be able to be in one location with emergency equipment running for hours at a time seems like something from Star Trek when they hit, Warp Speed.
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SparkieMi
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:51:39 AM

This could be a boost to the plug-in hybrid vehicle development generation..
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iFueler
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:47:26 AM

sounds like may work for fixed-based vehicles, planned use vehicles operated within the jurisdiction or nearby
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:24:55 AM

Denver CO has a very successful CNG hygrid electric bus system.. this will be a transition that happens across the country.
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CivicMA
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:19:39 AM

If efficient and financially sensible, sure. Fleets are where these alternative energy vehicles will fare best due to supporting infrastructure.
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JohnofGB
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:17:44 AM

Fleets that park their vehilces in the same spot night after night , can do this.
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cutter1330
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:16:16 AM

Waste of money.
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Ray_10589
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:13:46 AM

waste of tax dollars
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03Avalanche
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:13:12 AM

I don't understand why their are so many on here who bash hybrids along with electrics. Hybrids do run on gasoline as well as electric so you wouldn't be out of power in 50 miles! Do some research before spewing uninformed information please!
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:08:38 AM

lol - people on here sure seem to eat hate.
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OGW
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:05:11 AM

It just proves that you just have to be stupid to get elected as a mayor. Will he mandate that the crooks have to have EV's also so they can't out run the police cars?
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bojiway1
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:04:58 AM

What's next, RC helicopters.

[Edited by: bojiway1 at 12/13/2012 1:06:07 AM EST]
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SteelPenny
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 1:04:29 AM

Total waste.
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rbrk02
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:56:49 AM

Wasted tax dollars.
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Zonk
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:56:30 AM

It is decisions like this which are needed to favorably impact electric/hybrid
vehicles.
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defiancegasman
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:51:36 AM

Plug-in police cars?? Just drive more than 50 miles and they will run out of juice, UNLESS THEY ARE OF THE CHEVY VOLT DESIGN!!
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69Bonne
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:48:49 AM

There will be a catch to this somewhere.
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jkpsr
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:48:03 AM

I guess I applaud this, but will the Indianapolis taxpayers?
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Bill100
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:39:03 AM

Major initiatives like this can never succeed as completely as envisioned.
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:38:55 AM

to explain the 13 year time frame - maybe they are planning to replace current vehicles when the service life of a vehicle warrents instead of immediately replacing vehicles which would be irresponsible. They mentioned CNG which many on here have said is the way to go. People come to this site to find cheaper fuel prices but seem more intent on criticizing any change whatsoever. And of course to find some way to connect every single problem to the President/democrats/liberals which they also now consider communists.

[Edited by: WanderDan at 12/13/2012 12:41:03 AM EST]
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Godozo
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:38:15 AM

And already the righties are praying for Indianapolis to fall apart – faster than they adapt the new cars and trucks.

Never mind that they're trusting the heavy, important stuff with Natural Gas.
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ican2step
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:37:53 AM

Whatever
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MDTDriver
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:35:09 AM

Just wait electric use cost will sky rocket very soon.
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:34:36 AM

Interesting!!!
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