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Plug-in electric car sales triple in 2012

Newsday -- As this eventful year nears its end, let it be remembered for the rise of the electric car.
Sales of plug-in electric cars -- both hybrids and battery electrics -- tripled in model year 2012, their second year on the market.
Plug-in hybrid sales have surpassed the sales of conventional hybrids in 2001, which was their second year on the market.
Despite the political rhetoric of the election year, the most popular electric-drive vehicle, the Chevy Volt plug-in hybrid, is outselling half of all cars on the market today. In the meantime, conventional hybrid sales grew by more than 50 percent in model year 2012, more than four times as fast as the rest of the vehicle market.
These facts are highlighted in a backgrounder from the Union of Concerned Scientists for the Los Angeles Auto Show, ...

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Submitted Dec 12, 2012 By: BurntOrange

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MadFueler Champion Author Winston-Salem Posts:1,084 Points:200,210 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 7:16:20 PM Ignore MadFueler Report Abuse If governments are buying electric and alternative-fuel vehicles, that leaves more gasoline for us civilians. So much the better.
wang91554 Champion Author San Jose Posts:3,310 Points:1,229,585 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:20:49 PM Ignore wang91554 Report Abuse need to triple again for a couple more years before they become real numbers.
blupupher Champion Author Houston Posts:3,695 Points:776,495 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 9:02:13 AM Ignore blupupher Report Abuse seems govt is doing all the buying, not the average consumer. Nice to see the government wasting our money again.
RogerB Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:18,237 Points:2,652,035 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 4:59:39 AM Ignore RogerB Report Abuse The Mayor of Indianapolis announced that the city would purchase no more conventional gas vehicles. Most smaller vehicles will be either EV's or plug-in hybrids. Larger trucks will use CNG. Mayor Greg Ballard: City vehicles to use alternate fuels in 13 years The city’s new goal is to convert the entire city fleet — to electric, natural gas or hybrid vehicles in the next 13 years Starting now, an executive order signed by Ballard requires that all new vehicles purchased or leased for the city’s fleet, other than police cars, have electric or plug-in hybrid engines. The city also will work to replace heavy-duty trucks, including fire engines, with vehicles that run on compressed natural gas, which is cheaper overall than diesel. Ballard’s motivation is for Indianapolis to do its part, however small, to reduce the United States’ reliance on oil produced in dictatorships — a recurring factor, in his view, behind recent U.S. wars. “This choice will save lives,” he said. “We will save taxpayer dollars. And we’ll shift the balance of global strategic power.” Especially if other cities, as Ballard hopes, follow Indianapolis’ lead.
RogerB Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:18,237 Points:2,652,035 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 4:20:20 AM Ignore RogerB Report Abuse The Mayor of Indianapolis announced that the city would purchase no more conventional gas vehicles. Most smaller vehicles will be either EV's or plug-in hybrids. Larger trucks will use CNG.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,605 Points:2,374,185 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 3:09:40 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Plug-in electric car sales triple in 2012? If EV's and Inbreds triple in sales just whom is buying them, certainly not the average Joe down the street. When a few vehicles are sold with the total being low to begin with, sales percentage will multiply greatly. 'Coming out of the closet' Sneeky's lousy, smoke and mirrors, lack of jobs, dog and pony show and in the crapper economy, the jobs are Not here. Sneeky's economy is not improving but continues to hurt the population and the job numbers continue to be down! With time, EV's and Inbreds will improve, the vehicles will get better and maybe they will have a greater driving range, a higher battery storage capacity and a much quicker recharging time. What the future may hold is promising but it's Not for me at this time! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII!
SkooterG Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,369 Points:344,185 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 2:23:27 AM Ignore SkooterG Report Abuse Good news. But they will never be mainstream.
bigdipperMS Champion Author Mississippi Posts:1,541 Points:550,130 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:33:27 AM Ignore bigdipperMS Report Abuse Why?
richnc All-Star Author North Carolina Posts:579 Points:209,985 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:09:26 AM Ignore richnc Report Abuse What we need is an electric Hummer.
BCM1 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:1,879 Points:786,420 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:07:21 AM Ignore BCM1 Report Abuse The government wasted our tax money on them.
CCLighthouse Champion Author Hartford Posts:1,136 Points:239,675 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:07:17 AM Ignore CCLighthouse Report Abuse Not me. CNG might be goo, I am a stickler about elec. in the house. I would not like to see my elec. bill go up!
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,700 Points:690,875 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:02:22 AM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Too expensive.......don't want one.
TheSnowstorm Champion Author Montreal Posts:8,732 Points:1,940,315 Joined:June 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:01:25 AM Ignore TheSnowstorm Report Abuse Somehow, I doubt this, but if it makes you feel good.....
RAE344 Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:3,212 Points:689,220 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:01:19 AM Ignore RAE344 Report Abuse When the bar is set so low, it is not hard to triple.
Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,214 Points:576,480 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:58:57 PM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse Ya, only the rich are buying, who else has that kind of money
SparkieMi Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:3,407 Points:616,610 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:57:35 PM Ignore SparkieMi Report Abuse The price needs to come way down for my budget....
carloco75 Champion Author Richmond Posts:3,854 Points:628,695 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:55:41 PM Ignore carloco75 Report Abuse "conventional hybrid"...?
carloco75 Champion Author Richmond Posts:3,854 Points:628,695 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:54:48 PM Ignore carloco75 Report Abuse Government must have gone shopping...
jtfftj Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:2,216 Points:1,274,755 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:53:56 PM Ignore jtfftj Report Abuse Triple? How many sold without government incentives/tax breaks/bribes?
DiannaFan Sophomore Author Utah Posts:218 Points:226,095 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:52:47 PM Ignore DiannaFan Report Abuse Saying "triple" is a pointless statistic without some real numbers to back it up. If there were 3 electric car sales in 2011 and 9 in 2012, that's triple. It's also insignificant. Bad job by Scripps Howard News Service.
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,925 Points:845,985 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:51:14 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse The price will have to come way down for the average driver to afford one...
arb0526 Champion Author Greensboro Posts:2,117 Points:438,320 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:49:38 PM Ignore arb0526 Report Abuse ok
WIWalt Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:1,857 Points:442,190 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:48:37 PM Ignore WIWalt Report Abuse Soon you won't have a choice
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,282 Points:559,080 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:45:38 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse For people that can afford them.Only a small percentage would buy them because of the cost.
rjoeh Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,212 Points:2,497,540 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:43:13 PM Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse Sounds more like a lot more people are evaluating their true automotive needs and seeing a way to be more green in their transportation needs. A hybrid might fit my energy needs... but I'm not convinced yet that they will have the longevity to match my 2002 Subaru with 345,000 miles on the original engine.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,174 Points:1,755,920 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:43:06 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse let's see 1,000 times 3 is 3,000 BFD
Jeannemarie Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:27,729 Points:2,038,665 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:42:49 PM Ignore Jeannemarie Report Abuse Wait'll they come out with a converter for the current hybrids if you think that is a lot. I am in line for sure.. Love my Prius and plan to keep it for 40 years (if I live so long).
DeeMamma88 Veteran Author San Bernardino Posts:352 Points:303,855 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:41:44 PM Ignore DeeMamma88 Report Abuse Will the prices of electric cars ever come down??
southrob Champion Author Tucson Posts:3,741 Points:715,875 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:41:32 PM Ignore southrob Report Abuse nice now lets drill for the reat of us that cannot afford the gimmicky trich toys that pollute the enviro more than the regular cars.(batteries,and plugging into coal fired electricity)
Titan_62 Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,573 Points:354,910 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:40:55 PM Ignore Titan_62 Report Abuse Thanks for posting...
2granny Champion Author Michigan Posts:9,715 Points:1,493,955 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:40:37 PM Ignore 2granny Report Abuse Not for me.
tco9436 Champion Author Connecticut Posts:1,807 Points:745,150 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:38:36 PM Ignore tco9436 Report Abuse GREAT!
peggygunderson Rookie Author Wisconsin Posts:29 Points:19,070 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:37:39 PM Ignore peggygunderson Report Abuse Electric cars will be the futures someday. We will have no choic e
troutbum7 Veteran Author Nevada Posts:340 Points:181,095 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:34:23 PM Ignore troutbum7 Report Abuse When they get plenty of them out there watch what happens to electric rates.
wcp3rd All-Star Author New Jersey Posts:769 Points:383,750 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:31:55 PM Ignore wcp3rd Report Abuse Not on my Christmas list
regout Champion Author Quebec Posts:3,100 Points:861,380 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:30:46 PM Ignore regout Report Abuse I wont buy one for now.
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,224 Points:897,080 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:26:28 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse And what number of those sales were to governmental entities?
charg3rguy1991 All-Star Author Greensboro Posts:867 Points:269,035 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:26:28 PM Ignore charg3rguy1991 Report Abuse Ok, but i'm still not buying one.
Gas4Gore Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,529 Points:445,200 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:21:43 PM Ignore Gas4Gore Report Abuse Oh my!
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:8,057 Points:1,601,705 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:19:27 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse yes---sales went from 10 to 30 to 90
oldred11 Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,735 Points:758,950 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:16:34 PM Ignore oldred11 Report Abuse Now let's see it triple again in 2013 and again in 2014 and pretty soon we'll have something to really talk about.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:35,351 Points:2,399,070 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:15:02 PM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse just proves americans with nothing else to buy are increasing
WeasleyOC Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,285 Points:829,800 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:13:14 PM Ignore WeasleyOC Report Abuse Not practical in southern California.
DeserTBoB Champion Author California Posts:1,472 Points:225,950 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:09:09 PM Ignore DeserTBoB Report Abuse I love my Chevy Volt. Last time buying gas? 16 weeks ago.
TedNC Champion Author North Carolina Posts:1,056 Points:239,925 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:06:05 PM Ignore TedNC Report Abuse If you sell 10000 one year, it's not hard to sell 30000 the next year.
Bleeder Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,038 Points:1,718,475 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:05:40 PM Ignore Bleeder Report Abuse They are more readily available this year as well.
Lukus Champion Author Halifax Posts:8,424 Points:1,702,230 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:03:57 PM Ignore Lukus Report Abuse We don't have answers about the cost of replacement batteries if and when they are needed. The companies should have a cost and how much they will cover.
Lizzylou Champion Author Stockton Posts:8,818 Points:2,357,285 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:02:34 PM Ignore Lizzylou Report Abuse I have to say that I am surprised!
Mr Tex All-Star Author Dallas Posts:897 Points:2,502,635 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:02:00 PM Ignore Mr Tex Report Abuse Anything that gets us off gas dependence.
MadFueler Champion Author Winston-Salem Posts:1,084 Points:200,210 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 10:36:04 PM Ignore MadFueler Report Abuse For this to work, we need to get the R&D paid off and get the economies of scale needed to make them affordable to the average car buyer. Also, there need to be more fast charging stations around (workplaces? restaurants?), or a way for us apartment dwellers to be able to top them off - not everybody has a garage that can be wired. Third, infrastructure is needed to make these good traveling cars as well as commuter vehicles - I want to know that I can charge it up along the way and at my destination, otherwise these things are just "one-trick ponies." (No I don't want to fly somewhere that I can drive in a day, and most of may family is within a day's drive.)