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Speed camera vendor under scrutiny as Chicago plans tests

Chicago Tribune -- Even as Chicago prepares to test speed cameras next week, problems in Baltimore's 3-year-old camera program are raising questions about one of the bidders for Mayor Rahm Emanuel's controversial proposal that could target speeders in school and park zones over half the city.

Xerox State & Local Solutions Inc., one of two firms selected by the Emanuel administration to test cameras in Chicago, has come under scrutiny in recent months for faulty equipment and thousands of erroneous tickets issued in Baltimore over the past three years.

Judges sided with motorists in more than half of the contested tickets examined in a Nov. 18 investigative report by The Baltimore Sun, which like the Chicago Tribune is owned by Tribune Co. The report followed months of complaints and controversy about Balti

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 12:18:54 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse I see cameras flashing w/ no one over the line.
eschroth442 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,084 Points:333,720 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 9:18:26 AM Ignore eschroth442 Report Abuse they retime the lights to make more cash. These companies need tickets to make money.
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,973 Points:2,118,590 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 6:47:01 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse If people would just obey the laws...
jrs4125 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,763 Points:592,720 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 6:41:57 AM Ignore jrs4125 Report Abuse Profit is the motive for these vendors..... not safety.
rwsb30 All-Star Author Dayton Posts:559 Points:112,680 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 12:11:53 AM Ignore rwsb30 Report Abuse Say CHEESE !...Actually I saw an article recently about a license plate frame which flashes back at the camera when it tries to record your license number,destroys the photo.
OOXXFF Champion Author Greensboro Posts:3,068 Points:1,080,380 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:58:49 PM Ignore OOXXFF Report Abuse What is going on in the windy city?
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,810 Points:820,285 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:58:12 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse Just a revenue creating option so they don't need actual patrolmen that require a payroll and benefits...
nimpy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:8,145 Points:1,703,055 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:56:29 PM Ignore nimpy Report Abuse I agree savalot
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,862 Points:1,614,200 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:56:13 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse Traffic cameras are mostly a scam and most of the money goes to the camera company, not to the municipality. I’d just as soon be shut of them.
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,479 Points:1,712,810 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:52:29 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse money grabbing schemers here
HailstormCA Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,860 Points:1,472,995 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:51:35 PM Ignore HailstormCA Report Abuse Until they actually put cameras on intersections where gridlock occurs steadily, and based solely on the occurrence of accidents it's merely an income scheme.
nwsynthetics Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,014 Points:347,025 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:47:22 PM Ignore nwsynthetics Report Abuse great
camel1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:8,275 Points:2,267,590 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:45:48 PM Ignore camel1 Report Abuse ok
melvindale Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,438 Points:351,230 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:43:58 PM Ignore melvindale Report Abuse They need them everywhere, and for running red lights and stop signs as well. People drive so bad around here, its getting to be like the Wild West - where you can die any moment from stray bullets, run away horses, or idiots driving 50 in a 25 zone and running the stop signs. Of course, we wouldn't need them if the police did their jobs. Locally they think their job is park 5 police cars at one diner and stay there the entire shift. I guess those donuts were out of control...
Harry813 Champion Author Iowa Posts:3,010 Points:662,840 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:41:41 PM Ignore Harry813 Report Abuse It's all about the Benjamins
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,075 Points:1,733,165 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:41:24 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse speed cameras help prevent accidents let the idiots get tickets they deserve it
preacherjohn Champion Author Modesto Posts:3,994 Points:1,920,715 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:40:43 PM Ignore preacherjohn Report Abuse Persons issuing tickets should be checked also.
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,809 Points:1,844,425 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:39:18 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Get rid of all speed cameras. They cause more accidents.
Ebaz Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:3,251 Points:716,285 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:38:58 PM Ignore Ebaz Report Abuse The next stop is communal farming and communism
oldiesman Champion Author New York Posts:6,437 Points:2,195,760 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:37:35 PM Ignore oldiesman Report Abuse Who do they know?
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,229 Points:519,825 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:36:08 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse Not a fan of cameras.
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,329 Points:1,532,975 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:32:24 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse I do not support speeding anywhere or at any time but photo radar is one thing only , it is a money grab and not a safety issue. If you have a speeding problem, put more cops on the road in that area and catch the speeders before they kill someone! Getting a ticket in the mail a month later does not have the impact or affect on the driver as a cruiser pulling them over at the time of the infraction.
Mowerman08 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:4,765 Points:1,218,970 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:31:50 PM Ignore Mowerman08 Report Abuse that's the one Chicago will pick
ItsMorph Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:33,443 Points:3,187,130 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:29:19 PM Ignore ItsMorph Report Abuse Just like a Democrat: tax the heck out of them, then try to control them in every other way possible.
Baron62nd Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,030 Points:1,671,920 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:27:56 PM Ignore Baron62nd Report Abuse Chicago, the curse of Illinois.
antur Champion Author Chicago Posts:6,870 Points:1,449,845 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:27:45 PM Ignore antur Report Abuse Suckers.
angelofdeath324 Rookie Author Ohio Posts:16 Points:82,720 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:25:47 PM Ignore angelofdeath324 Report Abuse speed cameras are BS I hate them they need to get rid of them stupid shitzzz
MG_Sputnik Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:7,315 Points:1,962,355 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:24:47 PM Ignore MG_Sputnik Report Abuse More government intervention.
Palantas All-Star Author Indianapolis Posts:803 Points:414,595 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:24:23 PM Ignore Palantas Report Abuse Those cameras should be illegal.
hpow Rookie Author Vancouver Posts:85 Points:18,850 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:24:22 PM Ignore hpow Report Abuse yes
FlogNut Champion Author Chicago Posts:104,365 Points:1,989,625 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:20:12 PM Ignore FlogNut Report Abuse They're just looking for more money so they can continue to go out and buy votes!
naspa Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,276 Points:353,125 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:19:19 PM Ignore naspa Report Abuse Great! Folks in Chicago "hardly" pay taxes, so why not punish them to the brim for living there. if Chicago doesn't have $ is the crocker system they have, not the people who are already taxed on everything exept air .... for the time being.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,932 Points:1,576,930 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:19:08 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse faulty equipment---kind of blows their value
Go4EVA Sophomore Author Houston Posts:186 Points:66,195 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:16:25 PM Ignore Go4EVA Report Abuse Let he who has never sped cast the first speeding ticket.... Cops are typically the worst speeders, but they do not face consequences that the rest of us do!!
flyfast Champion Author Kansas City Posts:9,258 Points:1,827,010 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:13:50 PM Ignore flyfast Report Abuse all about making money
joeschmo12 Champion Author New York Posts:1,027 Points:308,165 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:12:07 PM Ignore joeschmo12 Report Abuse we have something like that here.. it's called crooked cops.
WIWalt Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:1,736 Points:416,745 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:10:11 PM Ignore WIWalt Report Abuse Well stated ProRouge Well.. yes, of COURSE it's all about the money! ..and I, for one, certainly don't mind allowing dangerous drivers to ease the tax burden, if only just a little.
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,630 Points:3,496,655 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:07:15 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse There should be published standards for the minimum length of yellow lights so that motorists aren't unfairly squeezed for revenues. In general, I have no problems with speed cameras or red-light cameras.
gsayeg1 All-Star Author Milwaukee Posts:792 Points:140,730 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:06:27 PM Ignore gsayeg1 Report Abuse The readings in WI are as good as gold
tdc007 Champion Author Lexington Posts:1,118 Points:383,830 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:05:06 PM Ignore tdc007 Report Abuse Revenue enhancement.
CCLighthouse Champion Author Hartford Posts:1,013 Points:214,980 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 11:01:11 PM Ignore CCLighthouse Report Abuse The problem is that you don't have to speed to get caught with some camera setups. The timings for yellow lights are being shortened in order to unfairly snag some drivers.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,998 Points:1,114,340 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 10:56:30 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Don't speed don't pay... As for just the money, most fines are about the money...
kbierley Champion Author Dayton Posts:10,730 Points:1,415,690 Joined:Nov 2003	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 10:55:55 PM Ignore kbierley Report Abuse Money, Money, Money
sawdust1825 All-Star Author Illinois Posts:847 Points:437,630 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 10:55:08 PM Ignore sawdust1825 Report Abuse Sounds like another Chicago attempt to increase revenues anyway they can.
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,212 Points:873,340 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 10:54:11 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse Sounds about right, this is all about raising revenue, not public safety.
bojiway1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:2,054 Points:480,010 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 10:53:44 PM Ignore bojiway1 Report Abuse Just like a tax
grandamgt1 Champion Author Illinois Posts:2,351 Points:1,242,050 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 10:53:42 PM Ignore grandamgt1 Report Abuse These cameras ought to be illegal. An officer should be present when a ticket is issued. (and I don't mean watching a TV screen )
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,045 Points:1,488,830 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 10:53:13 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse More than a casual glance is needed
Alfied Champion Author Riverside Posts:7,945 Points:1,757,235 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 10:51:39 PM Ignore Alfied Report Abuse More $$$$$$$$$$
KhelbenArunson Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,451 Points:718,840 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 10:50:56 PM Ignore KhelbenArunson Report Abuse I think they should be outlawed.